Friday, September 19, 2008

Re: [HACKERS] Where to Host Project

On Friday 19 September 2008 14:05:36 David E. Wheeler wrote:
> On Sep 18, 2008, at 18:43, Robert Treat wrote:
> >> * Google Code
> >
> > does not offer mailing lists
>
> I get mail for the test-more project there. It's through Google
> Groups, which is a little weird, but works.
>

I didn't think there was any integration between those two services, but maybe
there is (ie. sign up for an account on google code and you have a google
groups login as well). Otherwise google groups can be considered a solution
for githubs lack of mailing lists as well. (incidentally, github has some
neat automated webhooks for its git repos, like automatically sending email
to a mailing list, or to a basecamp site, or dozens of other places. sure
this can be done with other services, but github makes it very easy)

> >> * LaunchPad
> >
> > does not offer svn or git, and i think they dont offer a home page
> > service
>
> It uses Bazaar. WTF is that? I've never heard of it.

it is another distributed version control system, similar to
git/monotone/etc... very popular in the mysql crowd (and i suppose gaining
more popularity in the ubuntu crowd as well)

> > Just for the record, you have overlooked SourceForge. While it
> > appears to
> > fallen out of favor with the open source crowd, it is the one
> > service that
> > does provide everything you wanted.
>
> Good point. I've not used it in years. Last time I looked the mail
> archives still sucked pretty hard. Otherwise, now that it has SVN, and
> if it has eliminated the performance problems, it might just do the
> trick.
>

Performance is nothing special, and its mail archive search interface is still
pretty crappy, but thats what local mail is for :-) I think the key to
sourceforge is its complete and it does work pretty well most of the time.

> > I've been saying for some time now we need to get out of the project
> > hosting
> > service, and get into the project directory service. What we really
> > want is
> > to make it easy for people to find postgresql related projects,
> > regardless of
> > where they are.
>
> That's an excellent idea. Do you have a plan for this?
>

We already have a product catalog on postgresql.org
http://www.postgresql.org/download/product-categories, so I think the plan
would be something like 1)no new projects on pgfoundry 2) announce 6 months
to move your project off of pgfoundry, and 3) shut it down. The downside is
this causes upheavel for projects currently on pgfoundry, breaks all kinds of
links, and generally leads to similar problems we had when we shut down
gborg, but it might be best in the long run.

Still, I dont think most people have bought into the idea that we shouldn't be
hosting projects anymore, so I haven't put much effort into this.

--
Robert Treat
Build A Brighter LAMP :: Linux Apache {middleware} PostgreSQL

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